Awkward: Hillary, Chelsea Asked if Person With Beard & Penis Can Identify as a Woman
Sunday Times journalist puts Clintons on the spot with direct question
Twice failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her daughter Chelsea shared an awkward moment after being asked a question about transgnderism while promoting their new book titled “The Book of Gutsy Women: Favorite Stories of Courage and Resilience."
The question divided the two was about transgender self-identification.
Sunday Times journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons if someone with a beard and a penis can ever be a woman.
Chelsea replied unequivocally, "Yes."
But Hillary didn't look too certain, and as Aitkenhead describes it, she looked 'uneasy' before blaming generational gaps for being less accepting.
The Clintons sat down with Aitkenhead to promote the book they co-authored, The Book of Gutsy Women: Favorite Stories of Courage and Resilience.
The book highlights the work of civil rights activist Dorothy Height, swimmer Diana Nyad, writers Rachel Carson and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, historian Mary Beard, LGBTQ trailblazer Edie Windsor, and Danica Roem, the first trans woman elected to a U.S. state legislature.
According to Aitkenhead's account, she tells Hillary that many British feminists of Hillary's generation have an issue with the idea that a 'lesbian who doesn't want to sleep with someone who has a penis is transphobic.'
As Hillary nods in agreement, Chelsea 'stiffens and stares at me,' according to Aitkenhead.
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The journalist adds that many women of Hillary's generation are not comfortable with biological males sharing women's bathrooms.
"I would say that, absolutely," Hillary nods firmly.
But Chelsea begins shooting a 'furious stare' at Aitkenhead, who points it out to her.
"I'm a terrible actor," Chelsea laughs.
"How can you treat someone if you don't recognize who they feel and know in their core they are?" Chelsea says.
"And I strongly support children being able to play on the sports teams that match their own gender identity," she adds.
"I think we need to be doing everything we can to support kids in being whoever they know themselves to be and discovering who they are."
At this point, Hillary looks differed.
"I think you've got to be sensitive to how difficult this is," Hillary says.
"There are women who'd say [to a trans woman], 'You know what, you've never had the kind of life experiences that I've had. So I respect who you are, but don't tell me you're the same as me.'
"I hear that conversation all the time."
But according to Aitkenhead, "I get the impression they don't like to present anything less than a united front to the world."